Truth. Preach it, brother. The Left is a packing of lying totalitarian wannabes or stupid sheeple who have bought the nonsense and are bleating willingly to the slaughter.
It is important to remind rational people how awful these sleazebags are - from Lenin to Guevara to Pol Pot to Barry Hussein Soetoro and his braindead sawdust for brains automaton they have now tossed aside without a single vote cast in favor of ridiculous Cackles and Comrade Tim "I traveled THIRTY TIMES to Communist China on a teacher's salary" Walz.
Vote accordingly, folks. These assholes don't intend to hold another election after this one. You know how you know that? Because they are screaming with their hair on fire that Trump intends to do just that, even though the man has never indicated anything of the sort.
If the perception is that Fascism and Nazism were far right, how easy is it to implement Fascist or Nazi ideas under cover of the moderate left?
A European Union was a Fascist idea, still promoted, post war, by Oswald Mosley and others.
Walter Hallstein, the first President of the EEC and a founding father of the EU was a Nazi.
Nazis opposed Yugoslavia. They dismantled it, favouring an independent Croatia and a greater Albania including Kosovo. The Serbs were seen as hostile.
Yugoslavia reformed after the war, but NATO played a decisive role in dismantling it again in 1999.
There's quite a list of NATO luminaries who were Nazis, including Adolf Heusinger, whose story is remarkable. He was one of the chief planners of the Nazi military invasions of at least five European countries and Russia.
Twenty years later, after having worked for Germany's post war intelligence services, he was appointed Chairman of the NATO Military Committee.
Now he was part of the command of the defense of the five countries he'd helped plan the successful Nazi invasion of.
Of course the Nazis had plans for Ukraine as well.
I suspect that Nazi involvement in the "intelligence services" of the West has played a big part in the deception.
The story of the Gehlen Organization and the employment of thousands of Nazis in the CIA and its forerunner is also remarkable.
Interesting article, but I came across this little gem: "So what could have pushed Mussolini, a once decorated journalist and socialist leader, to the other side of the political spectrum?" So Mussolini was a socialist editor, but then he moved to "the other side of the political spectrum"? Is it possible that the genius who wrote that article really believes that?
You have a gift! Love this sort of thorough essay deconstructing a very popular talking point - it certainly makes the left look even worse when you can attribute almost all atrocities to their ideologies and actions
I came across this via a comment by “Russ” under a Michael Shellenberger article. Wow. Great find. I’m sending it to numerous friend who scratch their heads when I scratch mine over the “Trump is Hitler” trope that grew boring many years ago. Reminds me of that great quote from I can’t remember who: “there's two kinds of fascism- fascism and anti-fascism.” And now the same can be said about racism. And the “antis” are a vastly bigger portion of these respective evils than the “originals.” Thank you Russ! You’re a real find. Subbed.
Thanks John. Michael Shellenberger is doing great work in warning about the current leftist threats to free speech. Everyone should subscribe to his substack. I am convinced, however, that the imminent threat of totalitarianism today is greatly aided by the historical lie that fascism and Nazism were "far right" phenomenon. The leftists who routinely compare Trump to Hitler are ideologically much closer to Hitler than Trump is. It's a classic case of projection.
Thank you, Ellis. I wish every American would read it too, along with Dinesh D'Souza's book, The Big Lie. We all need to fight the torrent of lies and misinformation out there!
Thanks. If you do a search for "were the Nazis right wing?" or something like that, you will find out why I wrote this article. Most of the online posts and articles on the topic arrogantly claim to "debunk" the notion that the Nazis were leftists. I decided to take a shot at "debunking" them.
Finally! Someone else who understands both politics and history and knows who Giovanni Gentile is! Thanks for this! I have debated the is time and again with friends who think and right wing free marketeers provide their entire population with “the people’s car” 🤦🏻♂️ If only folk could think. Then again they are mostly SNP supporters and party members and are irked when I point out that their party is both Nationalist and Socialist in its outlook and copies the key traits of homophobic and anti-Semitic as its German predecessor.
Yes, it is fairly long. That's why I started it with a summary for those who don't want to read the entire article. The rest is backup for anyone who wants to dig deeper and also for those who have been mislead to believe the "Nazi=far right" narrative but are willing to consider the facts. If you google this topic, you will see that there is a lot of BS out there -- especially from professional historians who get tangled up in the details and can't see the big picture (or don't want to see it).
The partisan divide that matters is between having property rights and not having property rights. The different flavors of the latter are relative window-dressing.
Property rights are certainly important, but there is more to it than that. The right to free speech and the right to "bear arms" are important too, among others, such as the right to a fair trial.
I found the manifesto of the Italian Social Republic fascinating reading. Co written by Mussolini and the Italian Communist, Nicola Bombacci.
It seems to redefine property rights in a way which relates to their social value. The strange thing to me is that it doesn't seem very different to what my generation is used to, just a little more left wing.
This manifesto was co written by Mussolini and Nicola Bombacci, who was a co founder of the Italian Communist Party.
It's pretty important to realise that the Italian Social Republic was completely reliant on Nazi Germany. Without the endorsement of the Nazis the program couldn't have been written or implemented.
In Foreign Affairs it calls for : "Abolition of the internal capitalistic system, and struggle against the world plutocracies; "
In Social Matters it declares: "The Basis of the Social Republic and its primary object shall be manual, technical, and intellectual labor in all its manifestations. "
Then it guarantees "private property" , at the same time defining very distinctly the limits of the quarantee:
"Private property, which is the fruit of labor and of individual savings and the integration of the human personality, shall be guaranteed by the State."
It then goes on to elaborate on this idea, giving some idea of what this definition of private property actually entails. For example:
"The expropriation of uncultivated lands and of badly managed farms may lead either to subdivision of these lands among the day workers in such a way as to transform them into private farmers, or to the establishment of co-operative farms of a para-syndical or para-statal type, depending on the specific agricultural economic need. "
"The right of private farmers, artisans, professional people, and artists to carry on productive work for their individual families and other groupings shall be fully recognized, save for their obligation to deliver to collection depots those quantities of produce that are set forth by law, and to be checked as to the accuracy of such deliveries. "
" Since housing is not only a right of property but a right to property, the Party is inscribing in its program the creation of a National Agency for People’s Housing, which shall take over the existing Institute, broaden its activity to the utmost, and supervise the providing of housing to workers’ families in every category either by means of outright construction of new residences or by gradual renovation of existing ones.
With respect thereto, the general principle is hereby affirmed that rental payments shall constitute legal title of acquisition as soon as the investor’s capital has been reimbursed in just measure. "
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was to convince people he did not exist.
Just like when I was speaking to a political hack in the 80s.
He said, "they're all the same" before I went in to vote.
I voted for his party.
Being slightly autistic I never saw the ruse.
If you can't see that one side is inspired by ideas created by Satan (Marxism) and the other for the good of citizens, then conflate them as all the same.
One more recommendation from me are the writings of George Watson, who taught at Cambridge.
Here's a very interesting article.
One very confident claim he makes is that: "In the European century that began in the 1840s from Engels's article of 1849 down to the death of Hitler, everyone who advocated genocide called himself a socialist, and no exception has been found."
The article concludes:
"On 16 June 1941, five days before Hitler attacked the Soviet Union, Goebbels exulted, in the privacy of his diary, in the victory over Bolshevism that he believed would quickly follow. There would be no restoration of the tsars, he remarked to himself, after Russia had been conquered. But Jewish Bolshevism would be uprooted in Russia and "real socialism" planted in its place - "Der echte Sozialismus". Goebbels was a liar, to be sure, but no one can explain why he would lie to his diaries. And to the end of his days he believed that socialism was what National Socialism was about."
I've recently discovered that one of the chief planners of the Nazi invasion of Russia was, twenty years later, Chairman of the NATO Military Committee.
Truth. Preach it, brother. The Left is a packing of lying totalitarian wannabes or stupid sheeple who have bought the nonsense and are bleating willingly to the slaughter.
It is important to remind rational people how awful these sleazebags are - from Lenin to Guevara to Pol Pot to Barry Hussein Soetoro and his braindead sawdust for brains automaton they have now tossed aside without a single vote cast in favor of ridiculous Cackles and Comrade Tim "I traveled THIRTY TIMES to Communist China on a teacher's salary" Walz.
Vote accordingly, folks. These assholes don't intend to hold another election after this one. You know how you know that? Because they are screaming with their hair on fire that Trump intends to do just that, even though the man has never indicated anything of the sort.
If the perception is that Fascism and Nazism were far right, how easy is it to implement Fascist or Nazi ideas under cover of the moderate left?
A European Union was a Fascist idea, still promoted, post war, by Oswald Mosley and others.
Walter Hallstein, the first President of the EEC and a founding father of the EU was a Nazi.
Nazis opposed Yugoslavia. They dismantled it, favouring an independent Croatia and a greater Albania including Kosovo. The Serbs were seen as hostile.
Yugoslavia reformed after the war, but NATO played a decisive role in dismantling it again in 1999.
There's quite a list of NATO luminaries who were Nazis, including Adolf Heusinger, whose story is remarkable. He was one of the chief planners of the Nazi military invasions of at least five European countries and Russia.
Twenty years later, after having worked for Germany's post war intelligence services, he was appointed Chairman of the NATO Military Committee.
Now he was part of the command of the defense of the five countries he'd helped plan the successful Nazi invasion of.
Of course the Nazis had plans for Ukraine as well.
I suspect that Nazi involvement in the "intelligence services" of the West has played a big part in the deception.
The story of the Gehlen Organization and the employment of thousands of Nazis in the CIA and its forerunner is also remarkable.
The right wanted less government, yet Hitler had an enormous government.
No mention that Mussolini was the editor of a socialist magazine
The article could mention the war between Stalin and Mao.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll add them when I get a chance. If you have good links, please provide them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_split
I added a line about the Sino-Soviet split. Thanks for the suggestion.
https://nuitalian.org/2023/04/25/benito-mussolini-as-a-journalist-and-the-inventor-of-fascism/
Interesting article, but I came across this little gem: "So what could have pushed Mussolini, a once decorated journalist and socialist leader, to the other side of the political spectrum?" So Mussolini was a socialist editor, but then he moved to "the other side of the political spectrum"? Is it possible that the genius who wrote that article really believes that?
They do believe that shit. Anything other than think Nazi = left
You have a gift! Love this sort of thorough essay deconstructing a very popular talking point - it certainly makes the left look even worse when you can attribute almost all atrocities to their ideologies and actions
I came across this via a comment by “Russ” under a Michael Shellenberger article. Wow. Great find. I’m sending it to numerous friend who scratch their heads when I scratch mine over the “Trump is Hitler” trope that grew boring many years ago. Reminds me of that great quote from I can’t remember who: “there's two kinds of fascism- fascism and anti-fascism.” And now the same can be said about racism. And the “antis” are a vastly bigger portion of these respective evils than the “originals.” Thank you Russ! You’re a real find. Subbed.
Thanks John. Michael Shellenberger is doing great work in warning about the current leftist threats to free speech. Everyone should subscribe to his substack. I am convinced, however, that the imminent threat of totalitarianism today is greatly aided by the historical lie that fascism and Nazism were "far right" phenomenon. The leftists who routinely compare Trump to Hitler are ideologically much closer to Hitler than Trump is. It's a classic case of projection.
This was a wonderful essay. I wish that every American would read it! Thank you!
Thank you, Ellis. I wish every American would read it too, along with Dinesh D'Souza's book, The Big Lie. We all need to fight the torrent of lies and misinformation out there!
Great article! Thank you for helping me to clarify my understanding of the misleading labels that are thrown around so freely of late.
Thanks. If you do a search for "were the Nazis right wing?" or something like that, you will find out why I wrote this article. Most of the online posts and articles on the topic arrogantly claim to "debunk" the notion that the Nazis were leftists. I decided to take a shot at "debunking" them.
Excellent. Thank you!
Finally! Someone else who understands both politics and history and knows who Giovanni Gentile is! Thanks for this! I have debated the is time and again with friends who think and right wing free marketeers provide their entire population with “the people’s car” 🤦🏻♂️ If only folk could think. Then again they are mostly SNP supporters and party members and are irked when I point out that their party is both Nationalist and Socialist in its outlook and copies the key traits of homophobic and anti-Semitic as its German predecessor.
Long article but very informative.
Yes, it is fairly long. That's why I started it with a summary for those who don't want to read the entire article. The rest is backup for anyone who wants to dig deeper and also for those who have been mislead to believe the "Nazi=far right" narrative but are willing to consider the facts. If you google this topic, you will see that there is a lot of BS out there -- especially from professional historians who get tangled up in the details and can't see the big picture (or don't want to see it).
The partisan divide that matters is between having property rights and not having property rights. The different flavors of the latter are relative window-dressing.
https://principlesvstribes.substack.com/p/fascism-is-socialism
Property rights are certainly important, but there is more to it than that. The right to free speech and the right to "bear arms" are important too, among others, such as the right to a fair trial.
Have you looked at the "dhimmi" requirements for peoples living under Islam?
No right to free speech in that Islam cannot be criticized or demeaned.
No right to bear arms, as "protected peoples".
No right to fair trial in that the evidence of a Muslim counts for more than a non Muslim.
At least some of the Islamic law was adapted from Byzantine Roman law.
Our bodies and our weapons are our property. Property Rights really do capture a lot.
I found the manifesto of the Italian Social Republic fascinating reading. Co written by Mussolini and the Italian Communist, Nicola Bombacci.
It seems to redefine property rights in a way which relates to their social value. The strange thing to me is that it doesn't seem very different to what my generation is used to, just a little more left wing.
We seem to be led by that 20% at the top left. How did that happen? Can we move things back to the center?
This manifesto was co written by Mussolini and Nicola Bombacci, who was a co founder of the Italian Communist Party.
It's pretty important to realise that the Italian Social Republic was completely reliant on Nazi Germany. Without the endorsement of the Nazis the program couldn't have been written or implemented.
In Foreign Affairs it calls for : "Abolition of the internal capitalistic system, and struggle against the world plutocracies; "
In Social Matters it declares: "The Basis of the Social Republic and its primary object shall be manual, technical, and intellectual labor in all its manifestations. "
Then it guarantees "private property" , at the same time defining very distinctly the limits of the quarantee:
"Private property, which is the fruit of labor and of individual savings and the integration of the human personality, shall be guaranteed by the State."
It then goes on to elaborate on this idea, giving some idea of what this definition of private property actually entails. For example:
"The expropriation of uncultivated lands and of badly managed farms may lead either to subdivision of these lands among the day workers in such a way as to transform them into private farmers, or to the establishment of co-operative farms of a para-syndical or para-statal type, depending on the specific agricultural economic need. "
"The right of private farmers, artisans, professional people, and artists to carry on productive work for their individual families and other groupings shall be fully recognized, save for their obligation to deliver to collection depots those quantities of produce that are set forth by law, and to be checked as to the accuracy of such deliveries. "
" Since housing is not only a right of property but a right to property, the Party is inscribing in its program the creation of a National Agency for People’s Housing, which shall take over the existing Institute, broaden its activity to the utmost, and supervise the providing of housing to workers’ families in every category either by means of outright construction of new residences or by gradual renovation of existing ones.
With respect thereto, the general principle is hereby affirmed that rental payments shall constitute legal title of acquisition as soon as the investor’s capital has been reimbursed in just measure. "
https://arplan.org/2019/05/12/verona-manifesto/
Left/ right is a distraction (by design). There is only one distinction which matters.
Statist - "I proclaim the right to coerce others by force and steal their stuff".
Everyone else - "I adhere to the principles of property and personhood rights and equality for all".
In the wirds of Keyser Söze.
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was to convince people he did not exist.
Just like when I was speaking to a political hack in the 80s.
He said, "they're all the same" before I went in to vote.
I voted for his party.
Being slightly autistic I never saw the ruse.
If you can't see that one side is inspired by ideas created by Satan (Marxism) and the other for the good of citizens, then conflate them as all the same.
Also interesting:
http://200.144.254.127:8080/english/texts/watsonliteraturesocialism.pdf
One more recommendation from me are the writings of George Watson, who taught at Cambridge.
Here's a very interesting article.
One very confident claim he makes is that: "In the European century that began in the 1840s from Engels's article of 1849 down to the death of Hitler, everyone who advocated genocide called himself a socialist, and no exception has been found."
The article concludes:
"On 16 June 1941, five days before Hitler attacked the Soviet Union, Goebbels exulted, in the privacy of his diary, in the victory over Bolshevism that he believed would quickly follow. There would be no restoration of the tsars, he remarked to himself, after Russia had been conquered. But Jewish Bolshevism would be uprooted in Russia and "real socialism" planted in its place - "Der echte Sozialismus". Goebbels was a liar, to be sure, but no one can explain why he would lie to his diaries. And to the end of his days he believed that socialism was what National Socialism was about."
I've recently discovered that one of the chief planners of the Nazi invasion of Russia was, twenty years later, Chairman of the NATO Military Committee.
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/hitler-and-the-socialist-dream-1186455.html